Top right-back target suggested for Man Utd; Robertson conspiracy theory Manchester United fans discuss summer targets, Chelsea fans talk about the need for change this summer and has Liverpool’s Andrew Robertson got toothache? All in the forum… Join in the chat here… Abramovich has decisions to make Interesting discussion going on here!! Agree with both 9 & CFC, but you all know my opinion on how the club is or isnt being run anyway The problems are more deep rooted that simply the Sarri, or any of the recent coaches. The club appears to have become a bit of a rudderless ship over the last few years and certainly the circumstances affecting Roman at the minute have to be a major factor. It is interesting that today some of the media have resurrected the Sir Jim Ratcliffe link. Possibly just to beef up the story of his proposed take over of Team Sky, however maybe it could that be the answer. British interest in a British club, limited to no Political pressures, a man who seems to have a genuine interest in Sport. What ever happens I would like to see people in charge who have a genuine interest in Chelsea FC, not in themselves and what Chelsea can offer them. I want to see a club with a proper structure where the Comercial Side is run seperately from the Footballing side, and only ever meet in the Board Room, but have the same ambition for the club. I want to see a Director of Football who will work with and support the first team coach (and vice versa). With a proper structure in place I would not rule out the return of any of our previous coaches for the reason I have stated above. I still however, and I make no apology, do not think Sarri is the right man. He has shown a stubborn streak that I dont think will ever change. To me he is another Ranieri, and where yes he may eventually win something he would not be capable of sustaining it! Roman has some very big decisions to make in the coming weeks and months that could potentially be monumentous to the future of our Club!! NIBlue Some excellent posts lads. Whether we win the EL or achieve the top 4 and consequently CL football next season I still think Sarri will be gone at the end of the season he didn’t have the unanimous agreement of the Board at the time of his appointment and whatever happens between now and the end of the Season I think Sarri has lost the confidence of the majority if not all of the Board and the match going fans as well as Chelsea fans generally and I don’t think there’s any way back from there. The only way Sarri won’t be sacked is if we can’t overturn the transfer ban which then will dramatically effect who we might be able to get to replace him but even if that happens I think it’s unlikely he will survive past this Summer because even with a transfer ban I suspect there will still be someone credible prepared to take on the role. nine nine nine Chelsea in transition Talking of a fragile state of the Club it was interesting to hear some of the pundits comments (maybe this is on the wrong thread?) about our situation and that some do not see us winning trophies for a few years or even staying within the top 6 Obviously some of that is just for the sake of TV and wanting to be seen to be taking a deeper look at the situation but even so, we posters are much closer to the situation and if we are being truthful we can all see some elements of truth in there We will call it a transitional period to save some face but we look to be heading for a set of cross roads which we have to handle with care and caution to ensure that we get across safely. KTBFFH CFC1905 1905… I argued the need to transition last season… clearly not to a woman, but to allow the next manager time to develop and build a side and that meant taking a hit for a couple of years and for us fans to be patient. What a difference a year makes… Not… Romansdirtypants 1905, I don’t take too much notice of the pundits most are like opposition fans and anxious to talk down other Clubs and talk up their own Club’s with the Liverpool pundits the worst. Despite all of our problems this season and a Manager who is seemingly struggling we are still competing for a top 4 place even now. If the ban is avoided this Summer I think we will be very active in the transfer market and with a likely change of Manager back to challenging again and even if it isn’t and we lose Hazard which is still not a given we will acquire Pulisic and I expect us to retain CHO and if we bring back some of our best loanees in key positions then I still think we won’t be far off challenging for a top 4 place. And the transfer ban won’t last forever. Chelsea have been the most successful Club in English football in the last decade and there’s a fair degree of jealously and anxiousness to talk us down and see us fail across the pundits and the media generally including social media and opposition fans. Clearly we’re not in our best place currently but we’ve been written off before and proved people wrong and I suspect we will do that again. Short term though I think it’s unlikely we will be challenging for the PL title of competing for the CL it might take us a couple of years and more sensible planning and decision making to get back to doing that but I will be surprised given what we’ve got at youth level if we don’t remain a significant Club in the future. nine nine nine Mourinho a no-go Mou, I think not. His style has been found out. He wasn’t as successful as people expected in Man Utd, despite being helped with a big transfer kitty. I don’t think he is the right man for us in this situation, with transfer ban. However, while I thought Sarri was the right man for us when he was appointed, more and more I think that he is not. He should have concerned since against Fulham where we stuttered but he didn’t. And thus we repeated the mistake against tougher opponents in Wolves and Everton. Our chance to finish in the top 4 IMO is minimal. We have not only one but two rivals who both have more points than us. And lighter fixtures. And better form. So even though mathematically it’s still very much possible to finish in the top 4, myself I do not expect that anymore. So with big possibility of no CL and transfer ban: who would want to come to be our manager? I read a comment from Mario Melchiot that we cannot sack Sarri as we won’t find replacement. For me this is pathetic. If he is not successful, if he is not the right man, of course we can sack him. I hope we can turn to former players who love the club to take charge should Sarri leave. Frankie Lampard, John Terry, Zola, … even Steve Holland who worked with us for quite long time in different levels. Aindro 999 – very interesting article and identifies some quality players. I guess more and more there will be focus on who we can bring in from on loan or within if this transfer vban is not lifted Must admit not seen or heard anything more on the ban and no idea if there is a time limit for when we can no longer appeal or even when we were going to get written confirmation of why the appeal was rejected – seems to have gone very quiet on that front Aindro – really none of those have any managerial background or track record so my feeling is that we would only go there as a last resort if no other manager wanted to join the Club. The only stumbling block for a new manager would be the transfer ban so we wait to see how that pans out. No problem with some ex players returning in some capacity or other but I do not believe that any of them are truly ready to take on such a massive job regardless of how much passion they have for the Club. KTBFFH CFC1905 Sarri has no plan B Guys, we have all seen enough to realise Sarri is not the right appointment. We have a very technical Groupo of players who can play great football, so a good tactical manager should be able to work with them and succeed. Sarri is not a tactician, and to win finals and the important games you need a coach who knows how to play against and beat an opponent. Sarri plays the same game plan, no matter what and has been found out. Think back to Jose, he knows how to win the important games. We used to go into the big games almost expecting to get a result, as Jose would change the game with his dubs and his tactics to nullify the threats of the opponents. He also knows how to set up a defence. Sarri is clueless to all this. His mandate is to keep possession of the ball, and not take risks with it, even when we are losing we are passing the ball for the sake of it not even bothering to get overloads in the box. Our defending of corners in particular is comical. The stadium is getting so quiet lately because the fans are bored and falling asleep watching this tedious style game in game out Chris451 Spurs game crucial for Liverpool This is a huge game. If we win it we have every chance to complete the season with maximum points. If we lose it City will have one hand on the title. A draw won’t be any good unless Spurs can do the same or better at the Etihad. Their form has wobbled, but Spurs are still a formidable team. They have a superior midfield and are excellent up front. They are also desperate for points. It’s going to be a titanic struggle. One positive thing is that I can’t see them parking he bus. It’s just not their style. Expecting an open attacking game with goals. Just hope we get more of them! nediarb2 Liverpool dreaming All that really matters is the next game, which is probably the second most important of the season so far after our trip to the Etihad. If we win that we can start dreaming, but dropping any more points will make it extremely difficult. Let’s hope that our players come back from the break unscathed nediarb2 Robertson plot? Ever present Robertson suddenly injured and unavailable for Scotland next match all of a sudden, mouth surgery the reason. Next level scheming by LFC lol. I hope VVD and others don’t get injured in the next two weeks. Good news though on Gomez and Ox. Klopp recently said that they will be ready for more U23 games by the beginning of April. I’m sure Gomez will probably be more likely to figure than Ox but wouldn’t be surprised to see ox get a run out in the last few games. Could be crucial especially if he hits the ground running. mwake United should go for Wan-Bissaka If we sign a RB I’d like to bring in Wan Bissaka. Bags of talent, loads of potential and a dogged defender. PL experience. Also would be a young signing which would focus Dalot’s mind too. If we bring another RB in we either need to go very short term (one year) – which I can’t really see the point of as Dalot will either be good enough or won’t be good enough and we’ll be back to square one next year, or we just bring in the best available. We should start being more ruthless and bring in players to improve on what we have. Start with the key areas and go from there. RW is going to be interesting. Sancho being touted, but he looks more of a LW and I can’t see Martial moving over to the right – as we have tried that when we signed Sanchez. Alfie07 any thing ive seen definatly show Sancho as main position RW forward….”other position” LW ….so id say more RW and when needed to cver or mix up you can have him on the LW and mix things up or even try a “fluid” front 3….. dont think you will get him though stevosnakeeye Cheers Steveo, No, I don’t think we will get him either. I think Dortmund will refuse all offers for him. Also, from his perspective it might be better to stay at Dortmund for at least another year. We certainly need a RW though and if we spend big on that position this summer (assuming the signing works – unlike Sanchez) the position could well be filled for the foreseeable future. who else is out there in that position you might like? Stevosnakeeye That’s just it, not really sure if anyone stands out. Bale would be good, if price is right. Which is unlikely. Joao Felix is a huge gamble (and I’m sure is more of a LW!!) Steven Bergwijn of PSV is being touted, but not convinced by him. I’m sure there are loads of potential signings for the RW, but I don’t follow European football so they will mainly be a gamble to me. I’m sure he club is looking into that and they will have a plan – but I thought that last summer too and that didn’t turn out well!! Alfie07 Stay away from Bale Lots of young wingers with potential out there. Of the top of my head (and with a quick transfermarkt search) I’d get the scouts to do a job on the following players and see what they come back with: Sessegnon (definately left sided but quality young English player), Lozano, Ziyech, Neres, Bergwijn, Leon Bailey, Chiesa, Under, Kluivert, Guedes Some are left wingers but at young age should be able to swap over. None would be automatic first choice wingers but whoever the scouts say is best should hopefully be able to push Lingard in their first season and make that position their own going forward I’d stay away from Bale – quality player but too old, too injury prone and too high wages – look at what Sanchez’s wages have done to recent contract renewals homerjay540 The post Top right-back target suggested for Man Utd; Robertson conspiracy theory appeared first on teamtalk.com.

Manchester United fans discuss summer targets, Chelsea fans talk about the need for change this summer and has Liverpool’s Andrew Robertson got toothache? All in the forum…

 

Join in the chat here…

 

Abramovich has decisions to make

Interesting discussion going on here!! Agree with both 9 & CFC, but you all know my opinion on how the club is or isnt being run anyway The problems are more deep rooted that simply the Sarri, or any of the recent coaches. The club appears to have become a bit of a rudderless ship over the last few years and certainly the circumstances affecting Roman at the minute have to be a major factor.

It is interesting that today some of the media have resurrected the Sir Jim Ratcliffe link. Possibly just to beef up the story of his proposed take over of Team Sky, however maybe it could that be the answer.

British interest in a British club, limited to no Political pressures, a man who seems to have a genuine interest in Sport.

What ever happens I would like to see people in charge who have a genuine interest in Chelsea FC, not in themselves and what Chelsea can offer them.

I want to see a club with a proper structure where the Comercial Side is run seperately from the Footballing side, and only ever meet in the Board Room, but have the same ambition for the club.

I want to see a Director of Football who will work with and support the first team coach (and vice versa).

With a proper structure in place I would not rule out the return of any of our previous coaches for the reason I have stated above. I still however, and I make no apology, do not think Sarri is the right man. He has shown a stubborn streak that I dont think will ever change. To me he is another Ranieri, and where yes he may eventually win something he would not be capable of sustaining it!

Roman has some very big decisions to make in the coming weeks and months that could potentially be monumentous to the future of our Club!!

NIBlue

 

Some excellent posts lads.

Whether we win the EL or achieve the top 4 and consequently CL football next season I still think Sarri will be gone at the end of the season he didn’t have the unanimous agreement of the Board at the time of his appointment and whatever happens between now and the end of the Season I think Sarri has lost the confidence of the majority if not all of the Board and the match going fans as well as Chelsea fans generally and I don’t think there’s any way back from there.

The only way Sarri won’t be sacked is if we can’t overturn the transfer ban which then will dramatically effect who we might be able to get to replace him but even if that happens I think it’s unlikely he will survive past this Summer because even with a transfer ban I suspect there will still be someone credible prepared to take on the role.

nine nine nine

 

Chelsea in transition

Talking of a fragile state of the Club it was interesting to hear some of the pundits comments (maybe this is on the wrong thread?) about our situation and that some do not see us winning trophies for a few years or even staying within the top 6

Obviously some of that is just for the sake of TV and wanting to be seen to be taking a deeper look at the situation but even so, we posters are much closer to the situation and if we are being truthful we can all see some elements of truth in there

We will call it a transitional period to save some face but we look to be heading for a set of cross roads which we have to handle with care and caution to ensure that we get across safely. KTBFFH

CFC1905

 

1905… I argued the need to transition last season… clearly not to a woman, but to allow the next manager time to develop and build a side and that meant taking a hit for a couple of years and for us fans to be patient.

What a difference a year makes… Not…

Romansdirtypants

 

1905, I don’t take too much notice of the pundits most are like opposition fans and anxious to talk down other Clubs and talk up their own Club’s with the Liverpool pundits the worst.

Despite all of our problems this season and a Manager who is seemingly struggling we are still competing for a top 4 place even now.

If the ban is avoided this Summer I think we will be very active in the transfer market and with a likely change of Manager back to challenging again and even if it isn’t and we lose Hazard which is still not a given we will acquire Pulisic and I expect us to retain CHO and if we bring back some of our best loanees in key positions then I still think we won’t be far off challenging for a top 4 place. And the transfer ban won’t last forever.

Chelsea have been the most successful Club in English football in the last decade and there’s a fair degree of jealously and anxiousness to talk us down and see us fail across the pundits and the media generally including social media and opposition fans.

Clearly we’re not in our best place currently but we’ve been written off before and proved people wrong and I suspect we will do that again.

Short term though I think it’s unlikely we will be challenging for the PL title of competing for the CL it might take us a couple of years and more sensible planning and decision making to get back to doing that but I will be surprised given what we’ve got at youth level if we don’t remain a significant Club in the future.

nine nine nine

 

Mourinho a no-go

Mou, I think not. His style has been found out. He wasn’t as successful as people expected in Man Utd, despite being helped with a big transfer kitty. I don’t think he is the right man for us in this situation, with transfer ban.

However, while I thought Sarri was the right man for us when he was appointed, more and more I think that he is not. He should have concerned since against Fulham where we stuttered but he didn’t. And thus we repeated the mistake against tougher opponents in Wolves and Everton. Our chance to finish in the top 4 IMO is minimal. We have not only one but two rivals who both have more points than us. And lighter fixtures. And better form. So even though mathematically it’s still very much possible to finish in the top 4, myself I do not expect that anymore.

So with big possibility of no CL and transfer ban: who would want to come to be our manager? I read a comment from Mario Melchiot that we cannot sack Sarri as we won’t find replacement. For me this is pathetic. If he is not successful, if he is not the right man, of course we can sack him. I hope we can turn to former players who love the club to take charge should Sarri leave. Frankie Lampard, John Terry, Zola, … even Steve Holland who worked with us for quite long time in different levels.

Aindro

 

999 – very interesting article and identifies some quality players. I guess more and more there will be focus on who we can bring in from on loan or within if this transfer vban is not lifted

Must admit not seen or heard anything more on the ban and no idea if there is a time limit for when we can no longer appeal or even when we were going to get written confirmation of why the appeal was rejected – seems to have gone very quiet on that front

Aindro – really none of those have any managerial background or track record so my feeling is that we would only go there as a last resort if no other manager wanted to join the Club. The only stumbling block for a new manager would be the transfer ban so we wait to see how that pans out. No problem with some ex players returning in some capacity or other but I do not believe that any of them are truly ready to take on such a massive job regardless of how much passion they have for the Club. KTBFFH

CFC1905

 

Sarri has no plan B

Guys, we have all seen enough to realise Sarri is not the right appointment. We have a very technical Groupo of players who can play great football, so a good tactical manager should be able to work with them and succeed. Sarri is not a tactician, and to win finals and the important games you need a coach who knows how to play against and beat an opponent. Sarri plays the same game plan, no matter what and has been found out.

Think back to Jose, he knows how to win the important games. We used to go into the big games almost expecting to get a result, as Jose would change the game with his dubs and his tactics to nullify the threats of the opponents. He also knows how to set up a defence. Sarri is clueless to all this. His mandate is to keep possession of the ball, and not take risks with it, even when we are losing we are passing the ball for the sake of it not even bothering to get overloads in the box. Our defending of corners in particular is comical. The stadium is getting so quiet lately because the fans are bored and falling asleep watching this tedious style game in game out

Chris451

 

Spurs game crucial for Liverpool

This is a huge game. If we win it we have every chance to complete the season with maximum points. If we lose it City will have one hand on the title. A draw won’t be any good unless Spurs can do the same or better at the Etihad.

Their form has wobbled, but Spurs are still a formidable team. They have a superior midfield and are excellent up front. They are also desperate for points. It’s going to be a titanic struggle. One positive thing is that I can’t see them parking he bus. It’s just not their style. Expecting an open attacking game with goals. Just hope we get more of them!

nediarb2

 

Liverpool dreaming

All that really matters is the next game, which is probably the second most important of the season so far after our trip to the Etihad. If we win that we can start dreaming, but dropping any more points will make it extremely difficult.
Let’s hope that our players come back from the break unscathed

nediarb2

 

Robertson plot?

Ever present Robertson suddenly injured and unavailable for Scotland next match all of a sudden, mouth surgery the reason. Next level scheming by LFC lol.

I hope VVD and others don’t get injured in the next two weeks.

Good news though on Gomez and Ox. Klopp recently said that they will be ready for more U23 games by the beginning of April. I’m sure Gomez will probably be more likely to figure than Ox but wouldn’t be surprised to see ox get a run out in the last few games. Could be crucial especially if he hits the ground running.

mwake

 

United should go for Wan-Bissaka

If we sign a RB I’d like to bring in Wan Bissaka. Bags of talent, loads of potential and a dogged defender. PL experience. Also would be a young signing which would focus Dalot’s mind too. If we bring another RB in we either need to go very short term (one year) – which I can’t really see the point of as Dalot will either be good enough or won’t be good enough and we’ll be back to square one next year, or we just bring in the best available. We should start being more ruthless and bring in players to improve on what we have. Start with the key areas and go from there.

RW is going to be interesting. Sancho being touted, but he looks more of a LW and I can’t see Martial moving over to the right – as we have tried that when we signed Sanchez.

Alfie07

 

any thing ive seen definatly show Sancho as main position RW forward….”other position” LW ….so id say more RW and when needed to cver or mix up you can have him on the LW and mix things up or even try a “fluid” front 3…..

dont think you will get him though

stevosnakeeye

 

Cheers Steveo, No, I don’t think we will get him either. I think Dortmund will refuse all offers for him. Also, from his perspective it might be better to stay at Dortmund for at least another year.

We certainly need a RW though and if we spend big on that position this summer (assuming the signing works – unlike Sanchez) the position could well be filled for the foreseeable future.

 

who else is out there in that position you might like?

Stevosnakeeye

 

That’s just it, not really sure if anyone stands out.

Bale would be good, if price is right. Which is unlikely.

Joao Felix is a huge gamble (and I’m sure is more of a LW!!)

Steven Bergwijn of PSV is being touted, but not convinced by him.

I’m sure there are loads of potential signings for the RW, but I don’t follow European football so they will mainly be a gamble to me. I’m sure he club is looking into that and they will have a plan – but I thought that last summer too and that didn’t turn out well!!

Alfie07

Stay away from Bale

Lots of young wingers with potential out there. Of the top of my head (and with a quick transfermarkt search) I’d get the scouts to do a job on the following players and see what they come back with:
Sessegnon (definately left sided but quality young English player), Lozano, Ziyech, Neres, Bergwijn, Leon Bailey, Chiesa, Under, Kluivert, Guedes
Some are left wingers but at young age should be able to swap over. None would be automatic first choice wingers but whoever the scouts say is best should hopefully be able to push Lingard in their first season and make that position their own going forward

I’d stay away from Bale – quality player but too old, too injury prone and too high wages – look at what Sanchez’s wages have done to recent contract renewals

homerjay540

 

 

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